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Darth Malgus is a minifigure of the Sith Lord of the same name in in the Star Wars universe, who appears in the 9500 Fury Class Interceptor. But even that ability of Maul's would not be a deal breaker against Malgus. Malgus is not equal with Maul in dueling skill at all. Solo mode was just introduced to allow players to go through the story content without trouble so they can be ready for the KotFE story. However his hand to hand exchanges wouldn't widdle Malgus down fast enough, as his pain threshold is ridiculous. During his first fight with Qui-Gon Jinn, after Jinn blocked his first strike, Maul decided he did not want to be predictable, so in seconds, he threw away his entire usual fight-strategy and replaced it with a new one. Maul also held a considerable edge over Bondara as well, and Bondara is likely the Battlemaster just as Kao Cen Darach was. It could go both ways. I don't know. Maul might have an edge in hand to hand combat but it doesn't really matter tbh. But same goes for Malgus. Or will Malgus' force abilities and lightsaber cut the Red Lantern down to size? 5 out of 5 stars (590) 590 reviews. Greater feats in speed, skill and martial capacity. And later protects himself and his soldiers from the explosion and debris caused by the Jedi Temple's destruction on Coruscant. Malgus force powers will prevail over mauls lightsaber skills. Throwing a mountain of rubble off himself, after being Force Blasted by Satele and left in critical condition. Close fight, sabrewise Maul, forcewise Malgus. And you're right, in CW-era Maul is a complete genius. His use of it would only heightened his abilitiy. Maul is practically better at everything. It could go Malgus' way as well. @shootingnova: And it's fine to have that opinion. The canon story remains the same. The Canon story still includes the strike teams. The thing with Maul's overconfidence isn't that it loses him battles though. Maul. Maul's M.O. The Sith Empire VS The Rule of Two! Nobody Malgus ever fought had even tactical capacity approachable to that of Maul's, and none of this helped Malgus acquire anything else. This, this is what im talking 'bout...Swords. Malgus turned his blade vertical to parry the blow and spun out of the blade lock. @reikai: In honesty, there is no "true canon", just because it's never been explained which is which, but I'm just saying that the Solo Mode has access to additional story content compared to the other versions, and opens up the possibility that Malgus was beaten by just one of the protagonists as opposed to all four being required to take him down, which is commonly used to hype FE Malgus. I'd say he still has some of the same overconfidence in his abilities but I don't think it should hinder him too much. Consider something like Sidious vs. Maul at the very end - Malgus probably would not have been talking if the duel was that short and if he was forced to exert himself 110% to barely and only briefly keep up. As I've said about Malgus before, he's basically Vader with better mobility. He would never play with an opponent. I don't see anything that Maul has done that would make him clearly superior, especially when Malgus has showcased ingenuity against skillful users. Regardless of how anyone wants to interpret the fight, it was still 4-1. Nothing's changed. @king-ragnar: Why does Maul have a force advantage, or a dueling advantage (I believe the latter, not the former. Still, in frustration, Malgus would unleash Force lightning, which Maul may or may not block. Also, HoT isn't greater than Revan the Returned. In The Clone Wars he became far more powerful than he was in his movie incarnation. 1. Against scores of other Force Users, and not just the same small group you can count on one hand. http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/black-manta-ocean-master-aqualad-vs-batman-mera-st-1574126/. Hence healing terminals at boss areas so you don't need a healer. That's it. The cunning Grand Master Jedi takes on the brooding brute of a Sith Lord. Neutral ground. 1 Description 2 Background 3 Gallery 4 Appearances 5 External Links Darth Malgus features a grey, bald head with menacing expression, and with several scars. But TCW Maul, Malgus barely loses. Malgus could take a punch or two without as much as a wince, as evidence by his fight with Ven Zallow in Deceived: "Eschewing speed and grace for power, Zallow loosed a flurry of rapid strikes, slashes, and lunges. Maul is the clear superior. And Reborn Revan isn't Novel Revan. Plus, Malgus has shown some issue with speed duelist as he did with Zallow and Leneer. @silentbat: TPM Maul is equally capable a tactician in combat as TCW Maul. (If this is a mismatch in either sides favour i apologize, if necessary tell me what i can change to make the fight more even for either sides favor). Everything gets lumped into Tactical and HM, regardless of whether you've done it before or not. The question then lies ... do we think Malgus would perform similarly? Malgus had strength but he was not a one-minded bull. That was kind of his whole purpose. Vindican was trained in the dark side of the Force by his Sith Master, the legendary Sith hero, Darth Ikoral, and was widely believed to be the Lord's greatest student. The HoT as of Act 3 is far superior to Revan Reborn (novel), lol. I just like to keep you guys updated on my opinions on fights. Malgus's power advantage is not negligible. vs Legends Bane. Dann kam das Imperium und zwang Alderaan mit nur einem einzigen grausamen Schlag in die Knie.“ 2. They are World Stories. They're both equally vicious and deadly in their own regards. Malgus takes the majority 6 1/2 out of 10. By contrast, Maul is more skilful, martially applicable, and faster. I suppose you are right, Maul is more likely to win but it would be an awfully close match up. I'd say as a tactical feat it's pretty good. That showing is good enough. He'd take Force by virtue of having lightning, otherwise his TK isn't really better than Maul's own. Two of the most powerful Sith Lords in the entire Order, both are hardly human anymore, held together by cybernetics and The Dark Side, if these two cybernetic butchers ever met on the battlefield, Who would win? He trains himself in endless tactics, essentially as to the point where, whilst he does favor certain tactics, he is capable of entirely throwing them away in favor of other tactics more suitable to the situation. Malgus being more powerful is his only apparent edge, and that only stands against TPM Maul. Rounds 2-3: Darth Malgus. 4. @shootingnova: Yes, you talk to the droid which starts those missions, and then the officer. Perhaps what Maul brings to the table, that no other opponent of Malgus has brought, is his experience with teräs käsi. Darth Zannah was eventually succeeded by Darth Cognus and her three-eyed mutant apprentice, Darth Millennial. „Jahrhundertelang stellte Alderaan in der Republik einen Funken der Hoffnung dar. @shootingnova: Uhh, no it doesn't. Will Atrocitus' power ring be enough to eradicate the Sith Lord? By contrast, Maul has beaten Qui-Gon whilst injured, and sources have listed Qui-Gon as one of the most skilled Jedi in the history of the Order, in addition to his other feats such as beating Anoon Bondara and being a peer of Mace Windu. They were both smart fighters. She is a notable Force user, but not a notable duelist. I don't believe it's been made clear as to what's "canon" (not that TOR is canon, either), but when you do the story mode, there's additional dialogues/conversations, which establishes the flow of story. @i_like_swords: God dangit, Swords. He still fights as efficiently as feasibly possible against any opponent to gain the victory. Legends and Canon feats apply. Malgus's more apparent usage of strength amounts to little considering Maul's rivaling strength feats. Malgus wins. As a saber combatant he has feats against the strike team I've mentioned, plus he's also taken out the likes of Ven Zallow (who's definitely >>> Hope Satele who's shattering saber blades), and has other saber accolades. Holding a noticeable edge over them isn't unimpressive, but it isn't very impressive in its own right either. Well... that was before he was "killed off" in TPM. Maul has no telekinetic showings to compare. Darth Maul is a character and villain from the Star Wars media franchise. That, and, when you get the Ilum story quest arc involving the flashpoint, you have to do it in solo mode to actually progress through it - so if there is a version that would be labelled "the story version", then it's the solo mode. Irrelevant. Because he's fought opponents superior to Malgus. Yeah this is a super close one. He never uses it in battle, unless he's sufficiently pissed and succumbs even further to his primal approach! Malgus wins he will cut the saber staff in half reducing maul to a single blade. Also, before you bring up Maul's hand-to-hand combat skills, he got stomped by a dog in that regard. But taking his other stories into account, that doesn't make sense. @shootingnova: Besides his fight with Jinn and Kenobi, what are some of his other tactical feats? Maul is frankly more intelligent than Malgus is, and is much more physically and tactically versatile. Malgus's durability was never questioned, only his skill, in which he is plainly inferior - not exponentially, but still obviously. So any of the punches Maul could unleash would not unseat Malgus entirely. Then again, even before the solo mode came out, nothing suggested that it was necessary for a whole strike team to have killed Malgus. @the_buddha_: Because Maul has a vast speed advantage. Malgus' only card against Maul would be his strength. @necromancer76: @richard96: Why would Malgus lose? Centuries after her reign as Dark Lord of the Sith, Darth Zannah's unique double-bladed lightsaber came into the possession of Grievous , a Kaleesh warlord –turned– cyborg general for the Confederacy of Independent Systems . Far as the canon story goes, a strike team engaged Malgus and defeated him, casting him into a chasm and seemingly killing him. Its DC vs Star Wars in this battle of the bloodhungry and raging fighters. The other option is to talk to the person standing next to the flashpoint entrance, and then you can just select whatever mode you want and complete the flashpoint, after which you're not obligated to do The Foundry (and after which you don't need to/can't go back and talk to the officer for the story content). These aren't Class specific stories. They both fight in essentially the same way but Malgus is more durable, physically stronger and arguably has more variety in force abilities and potentially raw power. Defeating Satele Shan nor Aryn Leneer is not impressive. He even held his own against Sidious though Palpatine was toying with him most of the time but still. Being able to completely change your fight plan in mere seconds for the sake of unpredictability shows a lot of knowledge, skill and adaptability. Maul is a far more skilled martial artist (quite possibly the best of all time), but Malgus is simply too powerful for him in terms of the force. Maul is a far more skilled martial artist (quite possibly the best of all time), but Malgus is simply too powerful for him in terms of the force. Now master-less, Vindican advanced to the level of Sith Lord and took an apprentice of h… Dueling - They are pretty much equal. By Bioware, Electronic Arts and LucasArts. @shootingnova: The FP events weren't retconned, just the game updated to allow newer players to go through the content without having to group. It's not a retcon. After a certain level though, you can't perform Solo Mode anymore. Malgus. ... Darth Plagueis vs Darth Malgus. Before Malgus can use his force powers, Maul would reach him to engage in a duel, in which he would prevail. Ok, Swords. That's common knowledge. Revan Reborn is novel Revan though (“I am Revan reborn, and before me, you are nothing”). Solo mode was just there to let players do the story without having to wait for groups at early levels. Maul is the clear superior. @criostomp: Force power> I am really good at hand to hand combat, every time. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. He might opt to reveal his other blade later, but that would be irrelevant given how much practice Malgus has with and against saberstaffs. A tooth dislodged and his respirator was knocked askew. Again, Solo Mode isn't the true canon. Something any person or group can partake in. R1: SabersR2: For If anything, Malgus being before and his prime and tremendously wounded, and holding somewhat of an advantage over a Jedi in The Third Lesson is a better feat than holding an advantage against Leneer. He staggered backward a step, as if the blow had stunned him. — Ein republikanischer Soldat (Quelle) Kurz nachdem sich Malgus den Titel Darth verdient hatte, leitete er eine… And to help with achievements because queue's were popping for lower levels as everyone was already max level from all the 12xp bonuses for Class Story and Main Planet Story missions. In other words, there's a greater sense of story in the first option, and as far as I know, you're always given solo mode when you do that. Maul and Jinn as of The Phantom Menace, Malgus during the Sacking of the Jedi Temple. Darth MALGUS Darth MARR & Darth REVAN Star Wars Minifigures +Stands Knights The Old Republic kotor Sith Best Quality - Please Visit Store ... Darth Vader, Darth Maul, Darth Malgus - Digital Print - Printable Art - Star Wars Poster -Wall Art PosteriapolisDesign. I think Maul's biggest feat is that towards the end of their duel, Sidious and he were going toe-to-toe at least for a few saber exchanges. Kao is more skilful a combatant and more impressive, and the fact that Malgus did defeat him before his prime adds to the feat, but at the same time, he was seemingly amped by Force rage and Kao may have been somewhat fatigued, and these should be the only logical answers as to how Malgus won since earlier in the fight, Kao outfought both Malgus and Vindican. He had to cheapshot in that fight because he had lost. Round 1: Darth Maul. Of course that didn't mean squat to Malgus. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Teams are still required for Tactical, Hard Mode and Operations. Because that's what it looks like. Can I call you Swords? Fast & Free shipping on many items! He first appeared in Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace , where he was ordered by his master to capture Queen Amidala of Naboo in order for her to sign a treaty that would legalize the Trade Federation's invasion of the planet. B-but ILS, Maul's applications of telekinesis are basic, and few and fa in-between! Darth Maul (Maul) was a male Dathomirian Zabrak Sith Lord who served as the first apprentice of Darth Sidious. Either Pub 4 or Imp 4. More powerful. Fast & Free shipping on many items! I agree with most. Reversing his lightsaber during the spin, he rode it into a stab that pierced Zallow's abdomen and came out the other side.". He has supreme confidence when going into a fight with just about anyone, and this confidence would only serve to aid him. The only realistic method for Malgus to win is via sheer power expenditure, and whether that would afford him a majority is questionable. @reikai: Actually, I rescind what I said about the additional content, because I can't remember if it was there before, but I know that when you speak to the officer who gives you the story quest for the flashpoint (I haven't done all of them, but things like Boarding Party and The Foundry definitely have this), you're given solo mode by default (I got that even when I was grouped with someone else, and I was overlevelled in that case). Force - I think this goes to Malgus. So instead of Palps showing up to fight Savage and Maul at the end of Season 5, it's a resurrected Bane from Legends the only true Canon Starting 70 feet apart Bloodlust on Victory by killing opponent(s) Scenario 1: Regular Bane Scenario 2: Orbalisk Armor Bane However, the Dark Council in her time was rife with internal power struggles and plotting. Veradun was raised by an adoptive father, a biologist in the Imperial Science Bureau, and the man maintained a private zoo on a planet other than Dromund Kaas with funding from the Empire where he collected and studied many different animals. @reikai: I know that, but I said the whole "must have groups" element has been retconned - especially since, if you pick the story version of any flashpoint, it's always the solo mode (you can have a group, but the quest itself specifically states that it's solo mode). Because Maul is by far a superior duelist to Malgus, along with a force advantage. Malgus can be more powerful, but he’d lose a saber contest. Then, any loose objects/persons around Darth Malgus would swirl around the bubble, through telekinesis. Darth Malgus is tiny in comparison to it. To which, Lord Andraal was afraid they were much too close and would be caught in the blast. TPM Maul he might have been able to outsmart, as he was very overconfident, but CW Maul had some humility and was a much smarter fighter. I don't think he could outsmart Maul with a feint like he did with Zallow and I'm not even sure he could straight up power through him. Vindican was a male Sith Pureblood who lived during the era of the Sith Empire's return to the galaxy. Re: Darth Malgus vs Darth Maul on July 6th 2019, 9:56 pm I mean, Plagueis also insinuates that Qui-Gon can solo destroy the trade federation flagship and thinks Qui-Gon would kill Maul in a lightsaber duel; but that only goes so far. If you're over lv55, and you're just doing the Ilum missions to do the story content, you don't get Solo Mode because you're already over leveled and you get to look forward to queueing for a group. Better saber skills, faster, comparable force powers. Having said that, Maul isn't doing what it took a strike team of the galaxy's best Force users and gunslingers to accomplish. Physical - I believe this would go Maul because of his complete master of Teras Kasi which was designed for non-Force users. Malgus is no joke in TK. Darth Malgus ruined a gigantic technological construct; its sheer size, durability and mechanical complexity is an entirely different matter in comparison to tearing through natural rocks. Malgus tasted blood, but he was too deep in the Force for the blow to do real damage. Perhaps her most notable accomplishments were the conquest of Drezzi, the destruction of Melldia, and gaining membership of the Empire's Dark Council on the basis of her talents. @shootingnova: As they say speed kills. on August 23rd 2020, 11:51 pm. Instead he leaves Kenobi dangling, creates sparks with his lightsaber like a caveman just discovering fire, and then fails to ignite his lightsaber to counter Kenobi leaping over him, landing, and then cutting him in half. Which, like I said, if you decide to start it before doing previous planet stories like Makeb, Oricon and SoR, then you won't be able to do them once you start KotFE on that character as it acts as if they were previously completed, regardless if you'd done them or not. Great deals on Action Figures Darth Malgus. Not until he has parity with Ziost Vitiate. Expand your options of fun home activities with the largest online selection at eBay.com. Leneer is virtually featless and still took considerable time in winning, not to mention the second time in which Malgus won via Lightning, not skill. The feat with Siolo'urmanka is good but not exactly what Maul does on regular occasion. Malgus has more durability and pain tolerance, but only to a minor extent and this should be more negligible than anything else. @necromancer76: What? Neither had tactical insight that outweighed the other. Malgus parried one blow after another but could not find an opening to mount his own counterattack. All we know is one was formed and they successfully killed him. For all intents and purposes, Ven Zallow has no showings aside from slaying fodder, so whilst defeating him is a decent feat on Malgus's part, it isn't so overwhelming. Maul in a close fight if it's TPM, Maul almost every time if it's TCW. But yeah.. Maul is overconfident but it realistically has only ever aided him. Now, this is TPM Maul, as the OP seemed to indicate, but by all means, Malgus could probably only stalemate him at best. 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